Re: SONGWRITING COMPETITION - SWC019 March 2019 - Voting until 01-04-2019 11:59pm GMT+2/CEST
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 09:42 CEST
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Yup transition could be better I do agree.The Exponent wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 09:41 CESTOf course, the sounds of nature are very soothing and relaxing.What I meant was, the sounds of nature can't suddenly make things positive. I was talking more about the transition from a "sad" and so-called "calming feel", to something positive and optimistic. The transition itself was poorly handled, is what I wanted to indicate.
Then you are genius. I will rather not say how long I'm bashing my keyboard. But to tell you the truth I'm bashing people and heavy/speed bags even longer and I'm still poor fighter. Time doesn't affects geniuses.The Exponent wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 09:41 CESTWell, to be honest and fair, I'm actually a noob in all of this. I've only been doing this for 6-7 months from zero, so I'm far less experienced and skilled than almost everyone here.
Bad composition will also affect mix. Bad choice of instruments will lead to interference in frequency spectrum. Yes you can deal with it and mask but still better composition means also less problems. I'm just using my ears to create melody, chords (or how it is called ), mix and everything. No science and theory behind so this is reason why for me composition affect my mix beacuse I don't know what I'm I doing.The Exponent wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 09:41 CESTI'm neither a musician, nor do I possess technical prowess, so I said what I said in the most genuine way. My ears always find your mixes quite good, I was NOT being sarcastic there. There is however, some dissonance/clashing of sounds, but it's not due to your "mixing", but the composition itself. To me personally, a mix doesn't include the composition aspects/choices, but rather how you blend the sounds in the composition and make them work together to create a strong emotion/last effect on the listener. That's just my opinion for what it's worth.
Not sure what to answer to this. If calling me musician is insult for real musician or vice versa.
As my names suggests I'm clueless, whish I was Groot, but I'm no marvelmountaine wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 23:12 CESTNo worries!
Yeah, there are many interesting aspects to the competition. These were my ideas, but if my music didn't speak to *you* in the same way as a listener, it might as well be down to my failure to communicate as a composer!
More to the point, though, there is no right or wrong way to be a listener. It is simply amazing to me to see how differently this small gang of people will listen to and interpret music.
And I have often found myself reacting to these feedback posts, desperately aching to put on my time-tested cloak of experience and expertise and go "hey, these statements are ludicrous!", both in terms of what people consider to work and what they might have a problem with (not really in regards to my own track, though - I've been mercifully spared from bile and/or ecstatic overreach!)
But I'd be wrong, because the objective standards I try to adhere to as a composer and a mixer don't apply when I subject my music to the world. Once I do, the listener is in full command of its destiny - my feelings as a composer/mixer/producer/middle-aged-know-it-all guy be damned.
Which is fine. And endlessly frustrating! :-D
no need to get defensive, a close examination reveals these things, monitored visually with RX and audibly with 650HD's so make of it as you will. i usually don't critique because music is art and art is in the eye, but you seemed open to that sort of feedback.TrojakEW wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 08:35 CESTFirst I want to thank you all for all your opinions and now some responses. Don't worry to put critics on my track. No problem here no matter what words you use. Go on I can take it.
You don't need to tell me something that I already know. I'm not a musician and don't know anything about music. I'm just bashing the my keyboard - this I do not mean as a joke.Dr Dendrite wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 21:56 CESTFrom the list of software used I expected great things as those pretty much play themselves and is hard not to produce something that sounds fantastic (8dio and Heavyocity put a lot of hard work in those).
Yup it is. No way to set sample offset for individual phrase in EVI. So there is no way to properly control legato in the way I wanted. Ethera need better scripting.Dr Dendrite wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 21:56 CESTBut I found the melodies lacked creativity and some of the vocal parts were disjointed (1:20 and 2:29 for example).
No I don't. Track was prieviously pure instrumental. I added Ethera in the end last hour. Kind of cherry on the bad cakeDr Dendrite wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 21:56 CESTYou really depended on Clara’s vocal phrases almost entirely to carry this track but they clashed (sonically) with the cello at times (2:15 as one example).
Everybody have personal taste for balckout theme. I choose sad but calming feeling for after blackout but for "normal" state I choode more agrsessive almost indrustrial feel (intro). This is how I see it. No problem with your opinion.Dr Dendrite wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 21:56 CESTIt did not speak “blackout” theme to me as was described in the thread intro: “Something that represents a more darker/brooding feeling”. It sounds like pretend Hollywood and It felt like an overreach into something wanabe grandiose.
I already know I have long road ahead you don't need to tell me that. I didn't said that what I suggesting I can already make.Dr Dendrite wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 21:56 CESTI thought you made a good mix but missed the high mark you set for yourself.
I would go thru all my feedback really but thought I would just say a bitDr Dendrite wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 21:56 CESTClueless_DarkDays
Strange intro, grabbed me right away, great sound design, metallic and dark, sounds mechanized and tribal, like the drum solo at 2:10, the complete silence followed by the slow bass roll was a nice change, 3:00 spooky eerie feeling here, 3:39 personal highlight of this track for me really like the timbre of that droning depressor.
High marks for following the theme and for your sound design (or preset choice, which ever)
Not sure why are you apologize. Maybe for this TrojaKEW? It should be TrojakEW Trojak is my last name and EW stands for East Way - that was/is name of "group" (kind of fight club ).Dr Dendrite wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 15:18 CESTactually, appologies TrojaKEW, I can see the words did not their intended effect and will refrain from useless derilement. i thought the track was good as the upper ranking i assigned to it reflects.
I will not want to pick up a fight with you in real life TrojakEW You'll beat me up like a ragdoll
I guess none of us are actually marvels... the harsh truth, haha! You're certainly not clueless - at least not judging by what I can tell from your music and your comments!Clueless wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 13:52 CESTAs my names suggests I'm clueless, whish I was Groot, but I'm no marvelmountaine wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 23:12 CESTNo worries!
Yeah, there are many interesting aspects to the competition. These were my ideas, but if my music didn't speak to *you* in the same way as a listener, it might as well be down to my failure to communicate as a composer!
More to the point, though, there is no right or wrong way to be a listener. It is simply amazing to me to see how differently this small gang of people will listen to and interpret music.
And I have often found myself reacting to these feedback posts, desperately aching to put on my time-tested cloak of experience and expertise and go "hey, these statements are ludicrous!", both in terms of what people consider to work and what they might have a problem with (not really in regards to my own track, though - I've been mercifully spared from bile and/or ecstatic overreach!)
But I'd be wrong, because the objective standards I try to adhere to as a composer and a mixer don't apply when I subject my music to the world. Once I do, the listener is in full command of its destiny - my feelings as a composer/mixer/producer/middle-aged-know-it-all guy be damned.
Which is fine. And endlessly frustrating! :-D