My mix was disqualified because i switched the bitrate and sample rate.
Amateur mistake, i spent many many hours on the mix and only 10 minutes to final export and submit and somehow and for reasons ill never understand, i changed both bit and sample rate
This was very stupid of me.
Overall though, theres a lot of passion and time and effort and love put into these mixes, for me in particular, this way my favourite song ive worked on here, and for that excitement to turn into nothing is a real bummer. Thats why people are passionate about their mixes not being accepted every month even if the rules are clear, and some people look at this as more fun and a form of art rather than a technical procedure, though both are obviously important, everyone has there own take on what side is more important and interesting to them.
Im not trying to say anything is unfair, its not, but im not sure that learning these types of lessons are what people are here for. I would imagine we are all here to share our love of mixing, not so much the love of getting everything right with it on our initial upload.
I dont know if the participation has outgrown what the admin side can handle, or if learning these lessons is the main focus here, but i do think that if people put in quite a lot of their own work, there should be less punishment in return for mistakes, and yes the real (higher paid jobs) world can be harsh on these things, but i still think we could all learn with a bit more leniency. Again, its not that its unfair considering its all done with i believe just Mr. Fox, which is increadable and very appreciated, but if things such as a simple explaination is needed or a re upload, that should be feasable and a bit less dis heartaning for participants.
Again, we all accept the rules when we participate, me for example, i accept that i messed it up and that i should be disqualified by the rules, but it doesnt take away from the fact that a lot of hard work was lost for an easily and quickly fixable mistake that i made, and i dont particularly join things like this to learn life lessons like that.
I dont mean to say that youve done wrong or to start anything, ive seen your responses and how you handled things over the past year and youve nearly always been fair and patient with people, and we all participate only because of what you have built, so i have no issue with you at all, what youve done is amazing.
But i would like to see it maybe expand to be a more friendly atmosphere with such things where people are guided to getting there submissions right and encouraged to learn by being guided as oppossed to losing hours of your life due to technicalities or interpretations, and yes its not a complete loss as you get access to great tailored material, but if it was handled in such a way that people were highlighted on their mistakes or their mixing procedures they could discuss where mistakes were made without disqualifications being needed. It might take another person to help manage this for time reasons, but it would be much more welcoming.
This ties into the documentation side, people all mix very differently. While some approach it in a very organised way, others may approach it in a much more chaotic and constantly moving way. This could result in 20 plugs on a single track whereas someone else may use one to get a similar effect. One person may move from each thing in a orderly way balancing it perfectly as they go and others may just move from track to track doing small changes as they go resulting in the use of hundereds of plugins. This very process may annoy some people and make them mad that anyone mixes like that, but it doesnt take away from the fact that some people do mix like this for better or worse. Documenting a project in deep detail would be a dissertation. And sometimes, what may stick out to the listener, may be completely forgotten by the person who mixed it as it was just one piece to them, until its brought back up, which then its all remembered. My basic point is, certain technical limitations need to be followed in order for things to be received, but the process is up to the individual, and at the end of the day, what is shared is going to be relative to what mood the person is in when they write and what they are thinking about and are excited to share, or whatever they have time to type up, and what kind of a person they are when it comes to writing and how much they care about the technical side, their background, how much they actually understand etc etc etc.. but overall, this could all be solved by discussion and not disqualification. If you would like very specific feedback of mixes, create a list of questions to answer, though again, i dont think thats the way to go, some people want to share and others not so much, just let it be like that. Same as problems when people upload. Its easy for people to go on a rant and say 'well if you got it right, you wouldnt have this problem, the rules state...'. True. But not what people are here for. I dont want to lose a bunch of passion that i put into something because i made a dumb mistake during export and sending the link. We participants also put our own free time and effort into this blog and dont wish it to be erased when a simple conversation could fix the issues. Again, i think this may be down to not having enough people to manage rather than any bad feelings from Mr. Fox, who again, i think tries to be fair and kind. But if we could drop some of the rules and just try to have a bit more fun and still learn with a bit less pressure on perfection that would be great.
Lets be very real here too, many will never get a chance to make a living out of this and this is as close as many will be to any recognition of their mixes. Learning the technical side can all be done on Google now (or books, or classes). But if its gotten to the point where that engaging in a bit of fun way of describing you effects, but not in the 'correctly documented way' could lead to disqualification and a stern pointing at the rule book, instead of someone just being like 'Cool! So how did you do that then?'... This all starts to feel like a strict and unexciting classroom and not a place where people with a shared interest come to learn, share and compete with each other.
Again, from your perspective i get it, its like the same thing all over again every month, but its not the same thing for the individuals that participate, its a unique situation where a lot of your passion is being rejected for things you may or may not agree with or even understand.
TLDR: is it possible to remove disqualifications, replace that with discussion and allow re-uploads, if the mix is still 'bad' put a disclaimer for the song provider before they listen. And just relax the forum a bit. We are a very small niche group of people interested in these things, lets just keep it real and fun and remember that although you may go through this every month, it doesnt take away from the passion and time and effort others put into in their free time during the months they participate too and that instead of making a strict system of denial to getekeep the order, allow it to be more loose, let the song providers listen to and judge a few mixes that arent 'in bounds', and there to be more discussion about the topic of why peoples mixes arent being liked by song providers, those conversations would be much more interesting then going through why someone was disqualified each month, and i think a short 're-upload' period would fix that, if the mixes come back out of bounds the second time then mark it before its sent to the provider and the discussion can begin about exporting and other issues, which will most likely be every month anyways. I doubt many people will break the hard rules if they are a short and clear list such as re-doing the parts of the song, if they do, it will most likely be obvious, if there is any doubt, ask and discuss. And as there are people coming in all the time, there will always be all different levels of understanding on all sides of mixing and technicalities, and as well, the first month or so, people may only be half interested in the forum and its rules, if they are told about their mistakes and learn things instead of being punished for not following all of the rules, they might stay, become cool members and these negative discussions each month might just slow down or stop.
Again to just say it one more time, i have NO negative feelings towards mr fox or this forum, quite the opposite, i still often read and listen when i dont have time to be involved, but i do think it could be handled differently and in a way that is better for everyone, but this is also from my relative perspective and im only trying to start a discussion on how to make this more positive, NOT to start any arguments or discontent and even if it continued just like it is, i would still be here as its an awesome and unique place and im legit only trying to be constructive.
Peace and Love`