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I just downloaded the archive-file you uploaded the first of January. It did NOT contain the Fillter folder. Can't see what happened a couple of days ago when I did the same thing (or at least thought I did). Because the two new sounds (bells) were there, then. Well, well ...Mister Fox wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 07:35 CETThe "Fillter" folder name was a typo. The new ZIP should not have that folder anymore (I can't check right now if there is still a mess-up).
Technically, if you don't use the synth's built-in wavetables or single-cycle waveforms to produce the sounds and use the samples as a wavetable, it's fine by the rules. You're right that you're still using the synth's oscillator to generate the sound, but the character of the sound is still heavily derived from the sample used, so it's fair game. The synth chosen does influence the sound of the sample, but that's the entire point of resynthesis, mangling, bit-crushing, distortion, granulating, time-stretching, pitch-shifting, chopping, reversing etc. etc.A Future in Noise wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:23 CETAbout wavetable synthesis: If I use one of the scramble-files in a wavetable synth - isn't it necessary to use the synthesizer's built in oscillators as well? Can I use the oscillators without breaking the rules?
Thanks a lot, The Exponent! I really look forward to examine the world of wavetablesynthesis.The Exponent wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:25 CET... but the character of the sound is still heavily derived from the sample used, so it's fair game.
I don't think there's a problem with that since you own the rights to the music you make with the samples and the challenge allows you to do whatever you want with the samples for this competition. And I personally think that a video demonstration of how you've used those samples to make music would be a really appreciated, since this platform is all about exchanging ideas and learning from each other. Go for it!
Aside from what "The Exponent" has written, I highly advise you to check out the "Sound Design Tricks" videos in this post. Most notably the ones by Spectrasonics and Andrew Huang, which focus on "pure wavetable synthesis" alone (with no additional Oscillators, only LFO's for modulation). This is why I post this.A Future in Noise wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:23 CETAbout wavetable synthesis: If I use one of the scramble-files in a wavetable synth - isn't it necessary to use the synthesizer's built in oscillators as well? Can I use the oscillators without breaking the rules?
Since I forgot the info block as to how to extract the ZIP file, I made an update post right after overwriting the ZIP file with the new folder structure and two new samples.A Future in Noise wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:22 CETI just downloaded the archive-file you uploaded the first of January. It did NOT contain the Fillter folder. Can't see what happened a couple of days ago when I did the same thing (or at least thought I did). Because the two new sounds (bells) were there, then. Well, well ...
If you're documenting how you made the music for SWC029 in video form, then I don't have a problem with that. If you create a video (monetize it even) with the samples the community provided, but not create an actual song with this that is not tied to this songwriting game, then it's a bit of a different issue and I'm a bit hesitant on that.
In the Surge synth manual you can read (no page number, sorry): "The wave-table oscillator has some interesting sonic characteristics. It outputs the waveform in a stair-stepped fashion, making no attempts to ‘smooth the steps’ in the process, but does so in a manner that is completely band-limited. This makes it similar in sound to 1980s era ..." This indicates a specific oscillator for wavetables, doesn't it? I spend hours and hours trying to read this manual (at the same time I'm studying the 428 page REAPER manual, Wikipedia etcetera (I just recently left Cubase for REAPER) ) - hours I would like to spend on my next composition instaed.Mister Fox wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 21:15 CET
Aside from what "The Exponent" has written, I highly advise you to check out the "Sound Design Tricks" videos in this post. Most notably the ones by Spectrasonics and Andrew Huang, which focus on "pure wavetable synthesis" alone (with no additional Oscillators, only LFO's for modulation). This is why I post this.
