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Mister Fox wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 04:06 CEST@DIVESPANNER -- glad this could be sorted out.
@shoma -- regarding the upload
Don't see it just from my perspective as a host. Assume you've posted (for example) 2 days prior to the deadline, you think the link is okay. Our client accesses files as they come on, then never comes back later (because: no re-upload, right?). Your file is not downloadable, to not influence others, there is no further comment on the forum, the client moves on. Maybe the Song Provider tries again towards the end of the game, still not downloadable. Then that's it!
The game ends, then it's my turn as host, if I didn't already download material in parallel as well (which I've done in the past months, but not for MC080 since I was busy). Bottom line is still - your file was sadly not accessible, and I have tried to download several times. Your documentation also surfaced after the deadline.
The new link you are posting now, which I wonder what this is for, is also not accessible. On Firefox (not logged into Google) it asks me for a login, and on Chrome (logged into Google) it asks me to "request access".
I understand the frustration. But I also have to be fair to everyone involved. To both regulars and newcomers alike that check their files, get their documentation in order and do not post last minute.
Yes, thank you. I know and I have chosen the "Get Link" and "anyone on the Internet with this link can view" option and if the screenshots I have linked to would have worked, you could see that this option had been set for all three files (mix and the screenshots)mattaroni_and_cheese wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 04:45 CEST@Shoma hate to say it but your link is still asking for permission to access. When I go into Google Drive, I can right-click on my file, and then click "Share". This comes up with a screen with two sections; the top one says "Share with People and Groupd" is for adding people and permissions, but the bottom one says "Get Link" and "anyone on the Internet with this link can view". I think this is the easy way to sharing ! You can try it out in a different browser as well just to double check it. Good luck !
I struggled with the vocal tone. It seemed to have a "papery rasp" to it that I couldn't remove and that was accentuated by compression. It was particularly noticeable on low notes. When I tried to brighten the vocal (using saturation, high shelf EQ, various parallels, etc.) it only made it worse.mattaroni_and_cheese wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 14:14 CESTWondering what everyone thought of the vox track and their approach ? It was a raspy performance (good for song) , but it also sounded pretty hot to me already so I really didn't want to add any saturation to them at all. Trying to harness them in with serial compressors just made them too hot imo. perhaps I need more time with compressors or perhaps i had a technical error somewhere. This did lead to me spending a couple days with my compressors to understand them better : )
Hi, im new in here. SOrry to break the rules and the link to my mix..genuinely mix by me. Im surprised that there was an updated which i didnt do anything or change anything in it. However i really respect of your decision and will make me understand more infuture not to make anymore mistakes / error. Thank you.Mister Fox wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 07:20 CESTThe "Overview of Submissions" PDFs have been uploaded.
You can check them through the upper post (post #101). Apologies for the waiting time.
As officially announced here earlier this month (September 2021), this data sheet is used to give an overview of all entries, and whether or not they are within given parameters (loudness, sampling rate, bitrate). This is adding to the overall learning process of the "Mix(ing) Challenge", and there will be a dedicated "Mix Challenge Addendum thread" explaining the mechanic in even more detail in the foreseeable future (I need some time for that). Please take note that creating this sheet is not a fully automated process. I am using Wavelab 10's "Batch Analysis" tool (EBU R-128 specs / equivalent to ITU-R BS.1770-4), but the overall layout and highlighting issues/mishaps, is time consuming. If you do not find yourself on this list, please let me know.
We have a disqualification rate of 26,67% for September 2021 (75 entries, 20 disqualifications, no "Out of Competition" submissions). Although we have four entries that might not count as "tagged disqualified" (see further down below), in this case the disqualification rate could change down to 22,67% for September 2021 (75 entries, 17 disqualifications)
In comparison to previous months (detailed in spoiler tags):On average (14 months), we currently have a disqualification rate of 27,90% (compared to last month's 27,99% avg), the rate is on a decline.► Show Spoiler
Please keep in mind, your mix being tagged "disqualified", does not automatically mean "you're out of the game" (see Wild Card Mechanic, read more about that below).
Once more welcome to all new participants that joined this September, from which there are plenty. I hope you enjoy your stay and you could learn something from this experience.
The biggest criticism I have this month, is that I would have loved to read more of your motivation for the direction you went with your mix. I really did miss the "explain at least one sound you're proud of modeling" aspect of the game (mandatory!). A lot of participants, regulars even, just went like "Meh... I'll just drop what equipment I've used". In some cases, only screenshots (which is a no-no!). This is a huge topic every month.
There are sadly also plenty of careless mistakes yet again. The source material was 48kHz 24bit (or 48/24). This can change every month, so paying attention to detail is important. We have four entries that are in 44kHz, one that was a 16bit export even. On a different sidenote: there are a lot of entries that drop down in bitrate due to the more limited soundscape this month. No worries there however - this is just some technical information, everything is fine. As usual, I only tagged "song length" if things have been cut a bit too short. But please... we have a filename template - use it!
Where I have absolutely drawn the line, was with entries that couldn't be downloaded ( @Seba S ), or where a participant was like "I'll post now, and update later" (sorry, @shoma - your entry was not accessible until way past the deadline. The rules clearly state "It is mandatory to document your mix/edit by the end of the deadline" - please post your entry sooner in the future!). And my personal favorite this month: post an entry early into the game (03-SEP-2021), pull it with the comment "I will post again soon, going to make a revision on the mix", ignore the PM by the admin (that I sent out mere hours later on 03-SEP-2021), then post a revision on 18-SEP-2021 with merely an info-dump of what tools where used. I am sorry, @AndrewMcPherson - but this is a textbook example of a rule violation (see Rule Book - post #6, Upload and Submission Guidelines, bullet point 4).
Which brings me to the next four entries. The majority of these showed some strong inconsistencies regarding file update timestamps, while one post has been called out for nigh 1:1 copying. I was going back and forth for a couple of days on what to do, not knowing if I should disqualify your entry or not (because this could hint at a re-upload). I am therefore proposing the following:
Please explain by Wednesday, 29-SEP-2021 23:59 UTC+2/CEST what is actually going on here.
If you can't explain yourself by that time, your entry will be tagged "OUT" and can therefore not advance through the possible use of either the normal gameplay (due to no mishap / "tagged disqualified") or a Wild Card. These particular entries are point of concern:
I kindly ask all of you to please be honest, as I am being very generous with this one-time special occasion. We all want to have fun in this game, learn something in the process. If you lie with your response, which I certainly wouldn't know, you would effectively only cheat yourself in the end.
- @fcamp -- can you please explain why your file was updated over 17 hours after you've posted on the forum?
- @jake sg -- technically you only posted screenshots of your used tools (rule violation), but to decide whether or not your entry is completely out of the game - can you please explain why your file was updated roughly 7 hours after you've posted on the forum?
- @Saccharine_trust -- you're edited your post several times, same goes for your file on Google Drive. Can you please explain what is going on?
- @zeminor -- your post has been criticized by @m_tree, and I have to agree with him. Why did you nigh 1:1 copy his post? Do you happen to have the very same setup as him? Is this an attempted mix copy? Please explain.
Important to point out (for all new participants): :
Unless your file couldn't be downloaded, or it has been re-uploaded/re-posted during the course of the main submission round, having your entry being tagged as "disqualified" does not mean that you're completely out of the game (yet). Should you be selected for Mix Round 2 by this month's "client" (Song Provider), you have the option to advance through the use of the Wild Card Mechanic.
Please don't be frustrated but rather learn from the experience, find out what went wrong, and use your possible chance to fix this in a follow-up round. This is why the concept of the "Statistics Sheet" and "Wild Card mechanic" exists. It offers you an additional learning factor. Something you usually do not have the chance to outside of this community's monthly competition.
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Please watch this spot for the client feedback and Mix Round 2 participant announcement.
This will happen sometime within the next 14 days (starting tomorrow).
Hi there, i cant seem to gain access to your file.LCM! wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 16:33 CESTHello everybody and thanks to the song provider and Mr Fox.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jPK3Zv ... sp=sharing
A touching song of pain and loneliness.
As it is clear, the voice bears the story and the other elements should be playing different roles along it to underpin its meaning; whether into a dialogue with the voice (as the guitar in the first half, mainly, and the violins and piano in the second), or as an envelope to underline the darkness and the sorrow (the rhythm guitar later, the cello during the whole song and mainly in the intro, the outro and when the noise breaks after each pause, or the “percussive” pizz cello and strings).
The main features, besides ordinary eq and comp, are as following.
Voice: parallel compression, reverb and delay. Manual deesing and stressed in some spots.
Guitar: saturation. Closer and louder when sharing the lights with the voice. Duplicated when acting as a rhythm guitar. Both tracks into a group that is side-channed from piano and violin (at the midst of the song, when there is a risk of overly noise) and from pizz string (in the final part).
Piano: a tad of volume for the attack. Layering reverb.
Cello: I love this deep sound rumbling along the song (stressed with some distortion) and I give it more volume in some spots. Reverb and delays are duplicated and panned. Centred, as a bass, though the pizzicato parts are slightly at the left.
String pizz: duplicated and hard panning. Higher volume in the intro. Subtle fading out in the outro. Distortion.
Violin: some volume automation in the midst. Saturation. An extra long reverb in some spots.
Bus: a limiter to keep things within the boundaries. Eq and comp (automation for the latter).
I hope you all enjoy my take.
Greetings.