Mix Challenge

kc23 wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 23, 2017 06:27 CEST

(continues in the next post... seems I can only attach three files and have four pics!)

Before that, one of the first things I did was automate the kick´s highpass filter. While mixing, I then used this automation for the drum-bbox track and the bass, tuning it to taste.

Here´s my track automation:


And then I automated the reverb busses:



What I´ve used that´s not included in Sonar Platinum:
Izotope DDLY (freebie when I got it)
Wave Arts Tube Saturator Vintage (version 1, now a feebie!)
AcusticaAudio Lime (comps and pres)
AcusticaAudio Pearl (eq and comp)
AcusticaAudio Ultramarine (comp)


Pics and audio files at this link:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/25o473yadsvc ... mCCla?dl=0



Well, hope somebody finds this useful!




Bye.

Wizzo wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 08, 2017 19:50 CEST

Hello everyone ,
Wav 24/44 : Download link here
Mp3 320k : Download link here

Hello everyone ,
First of all i respect everyone here , I just share my thoughts with freely speaking .
I have a suggestion , only winners can share mix documents with us ... I know "learning from each other" but you learning from the guy needs already learn ! doesn't make sense to me !! i can't tell you WHY i'm choose this specific plugins ? or i make that decision here to boost around "1k" i really concern about WHY here not monkey see monkey do with some basic steps !! for instant I cut -4db around 400hz in kick track to make some room for bass and avoid honky sound that come from the kick . this is like a tutorial to me , of course with some screenshots would be better.
I hope make my self clear and again it just a suggestion .. good luck everyone and have a nice mixing time.

Here we go :: Actually i don't like to make a huge changes in sounds
My Daw is AL in this mix can't tell you why but i like AL a lot .. I used AL plugins as well ..
Drums
1-Kick : boost +3db around 60 hz / cut-2db around 130hz to make some room for bass NOT need any compression
2-Chimes : only direct reverb with about 26% wet
3-Snare : (3 plugins ) saturation plugins about 35% / eq boost +2.5 db around 110hz , boost +4db around 7k , boost +6db around 12k / very little compression just for tone not for peaks.
4-Beat Box : cut -3.5 around 280hz /cut -2db around 500hz to make room for another beat tracks and really some frequencies here bug me a little.
5-Top 1 / 2 very little compression again for tone not for peaks
6- Ride : HPF 400-500hz / boost +3db around 15k just for Air / compression about -6db Gain Reduction.

Bass :the bass has very huge amount of harmonic low cut to 30hz / cut -2db around 60 (for kick) Boost about +2.5db around 130hz / cut HF from bass make it darker a bit (no SideChain)

FX : 1/2 just little compression -3/4db GR and added saturation too.

Synth
1-Mid Pad cut tell 200hz with very gentle slope /boost +4db around 1k / +6db around 7k / +2db around 2k as well i use here Eventide 45eq
2-Mid synth : Nothing here at all ..

Vox
Vox 1 : make it mono / low cut tell 200 / cut also -2db around 1.2k / Evintide eq 45 again here to boost +4db around 4k / cut -6db around 1k
Vox 2 : cut -3db around 180hz /cut -2db around 700hz .. echoboy directly 1/8th with 100% wet 10% FB .

Master Bus
SSL Bus /Limiter

Thank you for your time to reading my mix.

So...any news about results?)

Already in touch with "the client" - wanted to inform you in a couple of minutes.

Apologies for the delay - the evaluation is coming within the next days.

Wizzo wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 23, 2017 16:59 CEST

Hello everyone ,
First of all i respect everyone here , I just share my thoughts with freely speaking .
I have a suggestion , only winners can share mix documents with us ... I know "learning from each other" but you learning from the guy needs already learn ! doesn't make sense to me !! i can't tell you WHY i'm choose this specific plugins ? or i make that decision here to boost around "1k" i really concern about WHY here not monkey see monkey do with some basic steps !! for instant I cut -4db around 400hz in kick track to make some room for bass and avoid honky sound that come from the kick . this is like a tutorial to me , of course with some screenshots would be better.
I hope make my self clear and again it just a suggestion .. good luck everyone and have a nice mixing time.

I agree that saying "I added 3 db on 1k" doesn't help much. I rather try to explain why I do what I do and not get into much technical detail.
But I feel that writing the documentation really helps me keeping track of what I do and why, and helps me analyze my own mix after it's done.

Two links of how I usually approached the documentation in the Mix Challenge (if I had time to join!). Maybe this is an inspiration for the future.

From MC26 / October 2016:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 6#p6592756
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 5#p6609115

Hello Everyone!

I'm very happy to be a song provider for mixing.
This is my first time doing this. And it is very exciting!

I will start listening to your mixdowns this evening.

Thanks for your work and patience!

Adam

Dear Mixers!

I listened to the tracks in file order, so the feedbacks are in the same order.

--- Feedbacks ---

Photonic
Nice and solid mix. Balance and reverb use stands out for me.
Elements I also liked: volume, panning, effects

Dave McIsaac
Precise balance and EQ. The wide stereo and bass effecting is also nice.
Elements I also liked: volume, panning, EQ, compression, effects

kc23
Wide panning is great, but the kick lacks power and punch.
Elements I also liked: effects

Kevin Gobin
Sounds very modern and progressive to me which I like very much. The kick is strong and got character. Balance, reverb and bass mixing excellent as well.
Elements I also liked: volume, panning, EQ, compression, effects

FixInTheFix
I like the low-end, but the mid-range sounds average to me. The bass filtering and automation is a nice idea.
Elements I also liked: effects, automation

Ungifted
Great job on the reworking, but the mixdown balance doesn't cut it for me.
Elements I also liked: EQ, effects, automation

Wizzo
Solid, clear and big. Excellent mixdown.
Elements I also liked: volume, panning, EQ, effects

Dodgingrain
Delay and reverb with automation plays a great role. The white noise fx is also nice.
Elements I also liked: volume, panning, effects, automation

Arthur Labus
Great rework, but the mixing is 2 dimensional to me. So a bit weak. The kick is too easy as well.
Elements I also liked: effects, automation

Jesper Waller
The reworking idea sounds great. The mixing could be more precise. I hear some timing or warping issues, maybe with the kick or drums.
Elements I also liked: effects, automation

VasDim
There are warping errors with the tracks. EQ top end is a bit strange but interesting in a good way.
Elements I also liked: EQ, effects

JonssinMusiikki
Could be a very good rework, but the mixing only contains mid and high range. Couldn't enjoy too much.
Elements I also liked: panning, effects, automation

CoiledEar
Good balance between rework and mixing. Interesting and nice to hear.
Elements I also liked: volume, EQ, effects

SRMIX
There is an interesting chaotic interaction between the tracks, but I like it. Good kick and balance.
Elements I also liked: volume, panning, effects

OoF
This also sounds very mid plus high range-y to me. A bit tiring to my ears.
Elements I also liked: EQ, effects

Tbase2000_441
Simple and solid ideas on the mixdown, which are great. And there is an interesting snare treatment.
Elements I also liked: volume, EQ, effects

Mork
Balance is mostly okay to me, the white noise sounds too much. I hear a bit of blurry high range which I don't like.
Elements I also liked: compession, effects

Dwic
Very good take on both reworking and mixing. Great balance, and continous excitement. Nice job.
Elements I also liked: volume, panning, EQ, compression, effects

--- Interesting Observation ---

Everybody used effects in creative ways, which I liked. I wanted to mention this.
This includes delay, reverb, saturation and distortion as well.

--- Top 6 favorites for Round 2 ---

Kevin Gobin
Wizzo
Dodgingrain
CoiledEar
SRMIX
Dwic

Thanks for doing this, and let's continue!



[warning=Mister Fox]Admin Edit - copied over the change/edit request from the following post
http://mix-challenge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=895#p895[/warning]

Hi Everyone!

Sorry for my part about forgetting writing down the improvement tips.

Here they are:

Kevin Gobin
Please try to give the bass 1-2 dB boost and maybe with a bit of fattening with EQ around 150-200 Hz broad boost.

Wizzo
The kick could be amplified with 1-2 dB. The breakdown synth pad can be reverbed moderately and please try to soften the volume 2-3 dB.

Dodgingrain
Please enhance the panning of the hats on the one side to be more symmetrical or rhitmically pleasing to the ear. Avoid to be one sided.

CoiledEar
Please create a louder track, at least 3-4 dB than the actual one. Remove the fx from the ride and please use a more transparent sound similar to the original. The ride should be more dry. The vocal could be 2-3 dB louder.

SRMIX
Please add 2-3 dB loudness to the bass track. If you could do, please use more EQ cuts on all channels to clean up the mix. To have more separation.

Dwic
Please add 1-2 dB to the kick loudness. Please lower the decay or dry wet on the reverb of snare.

Thanks !!
Adam

Thank you for handling the evaluation, adamfiregate.

Let us kick off Mix Round 2, which will end on Wednesday, 04-OCT-2017 11:59pm GMT+1/CEST

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The following 6 participants go into Round 2 (alphabetical order)

CoiledEar
Dodgingrain
Dwic
Kevin Gobin
SRMIX
Wizzo


A thank you to everyone, and good luck for Round 2

Thank you very much Adam!

May i ask what you would like to change in the mixes for round 2?