Mix Challenge

Olli H wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 17:59 CEST

A Future in Noise wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 16:26 CEST

becsei_gyorgy wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 01, 2022 18:58 CEST

... but no matter how many times I listen to the new song from 1:44-, I don't like something ...

To be honest, I agree with you (that specific bar). But I don't know exactly what it is either.

Now that you've been discussing it I also checked that part. As if the singer and keyboard goes along with Cmajor chord with E-note, but the guitar and bass is playing Cminor with Eb note.

A Future in Noise wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 16:44 CEST

Olli H wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 16:11 CEST

In that new version there's also an added synth with my first self made Voltage synth preset.

The synth is the saw?

No, it's wave oscillator with delayed vibrato and some filters, and it goes to guitar amp and tape delays. I was trying to make a "poor man's pedal steel", so my reference was a dry pedal steel signal before it hits the amp. But I didn't use sliding effects with that synth yet. Still have to figure out how to add slide to one note while other note remains static.

A Future in Noise wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 16:44 CEST

When I think about it, this tune could be inspired by the Dylan album Oh Mercy (especially from where the tremolo guitar starts).

It could have been, or should have been. Now that you mentioned that album, I listened it again while I was walking. Plenty of tremolos and softly played drums or no drums at all... And Lanois as a producer. Most of the time the song "Most of the time" from that album belongs to my absolute favorites. I just checked that I seem to have about 50 cds from Bob Dylan and about 10 vinyls. So, I guess, whatever I do, is heavily influenced by Dylan.

A Future in Noise wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 16:44 CEST

It's in fact the second chord, and the guitar to the left I find problematic. But just looking at your description, and the names of the chords, doesn't help me much. But when I get back home, where I have my keyboard, I will have a closer look at this. Maybe even come up with an alternative solution (if you don't mind?).

Of course I don't mind.

A Future in Noise wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 16:44 CEST

Did you edit the vocals? I found it much easier to perceive what words you are singing in the new Soundcloud version. Maybe I wasn't fully focused the last time I listened. Or something was wrong with the equipment.

I recorded a new vocals, and some new versions of the shaker. New finger picking guitar parts. New tremolo chords. And most importantly, I spent some time with mixing, and especiallymixing through speakers.

Olli H wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 17:59 CEST

A Future in Noise wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 16:26 CEST

becsei_gyorgy wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 01, 2022 18:58 CEST

... but no matter how many times I listen to the new song from 1:44-, I don't like something ...

To be honest, I agree with you (that specific bar). But I don't know exactly what it is either.

Now that you've been discussing it I also checked that part. As if the singer and keyboard goes along with Cmajor chord with E-note, but the guitar and bass is playing Cminor with Eb note.

alavault wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 17:07 CEST

B7 is not the subdominant of E7. It's a secondary dominant of E7 (V of V in this case)
Also, most musical phrases get more dissonant up until a resolution. Starting with a diminished chord is a bold move.

Yes, you're absolutely right with that. Those technical terms and theories start to disappear from my mind, so in future I have to be more careful with my words.

Olli H wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 17:59 CEST

A Future in Noise wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 16:26 CEST

becsei_gyorgy wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 01, 2022 18:58 CEST

... but no matter how many times I listen to the new song from 1:44-, I don't like something ...

To be honest, I agree with you (that specific bar). But I don't know exactly what it is either.

Now that you've been discussing it I also checked that part. As if the singer and keyboard goes along with Cmajor chord with E-note, but the guitar and bass is playing Cminor with Eb note.

Great...
I will have to play a E natural...
I will blame @A Future in Noise for not noticing.
I have a PhD to write for god's sake XD
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For those interested, I will have to present at DAFx20in22 the paper "SUBJECTIVE EVALUATION OF SOUND QUALITY AND CONTROL OF DRUM SYNTHESIS WITH STYLEWAVEGAN"
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Olli H wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 20:02 CEST

Yes, you're absolutely right with that. Those technical terms and theories start to disappear from my mind, so in future I have to be more careful with my words.

Sorry for pointing that out. That was not an elegant move on my part

alavault wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 22:17 CEST

Olli H wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 20:02 CEST

Yes, you're absolutely right with that. Those technical terms and theories start to disappear from my mind, so in future I have to be more careful with my words.

Sorry for pointing that out. That was not an elegant move on my part

No problem at all. I'd rather be corrected than to be a source of wrong information.

alavault wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 21:55 CEST

I will blame A Future in Noise for not noticing.

Very funny.

Olli H wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 18:28 CEST

A Future in Noise wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 16:44 CEST

It's in fact the second chord, and the guitar to the left I find problematic. But just looking at your description, and the names of the chords, doesn't help me much. But when I get back home, where I have my keyboard, I will have a closer look at this. Maybe even come up with an alternative solution (if you don't mind?).

Of course I don't mind.

When I played exactly the way you described it, it did not sound wrong. You will here very clear and distinct chords in this short file (4-5 bars I think it is). The three bars I found strange (but not any longer) are muted, and voice is replaced by sax together with piano and electric bass. When I had listened to this a couple of times and went back to your version, I could understand what chords your guitar is playing. But in fact I could not here this before I did this experiment! (BTW: Did you know the BPM is 91.43?)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/108ZB5l ... sp=sharing

@Olli H I deleted the link to my short and edited version of your song. Maybe I need permission first. But if you want to hear it, I can post that link again.