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MIX CHALLENGE - MC055 June 2019 - Winners announced

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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC055 June 2019 - Submissions until 21-06-2019 11:59pm GMT+2/CEST

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Post by EatMe »

I have listened to all mixes made so far. Here are my remarks, you may want to use them before the deadline:

Original mix:
- too much room in the vocals
Photonic:
- too much compression after reverb on the snare, too much compression (ratio) on snare/kick
- guitar is too loud
Canese:
- bass has almost no body in the low mid
EatMe:
- the snare sounds really different (but nice)
AIB:
- lots of effect added (much reverb on the vocals and drums and guitar)
- a little muddy mix because of all the reverb, maybe decrease their wet out
- a little too much low mid body in the snare
Julien Meirone:
- a little too much low mid body in the snare and kick drum and toms, although it can do
Sir Cool:
- the vocals sound too held back in the mix of bass and kick
Nico Caldarulo:
- the master mix sounds too compressed, each sound ducks the other
Jeffs Solo Band:
- the snare sounds really different (a little dull)
- the mix sounds distorted and is missing clarity
Jerze:
- the mix has annoying reverb, like a bath room on the master mix
- the kick drum, hihat, crash (, maybe the guitar) is a bit loud in the mix, missing a solid mix feel
Lugh Senderson:
- a little too much wet reverb on the BVox backing vocals
Paperthin:
- the bass is a little too overpowering in the mix
- the vocals are not loud enough, don't stand out in the mix
Phil:
- the snare sounds really different (but nice)
- the guitar is too loud in the mix
- the tom drums have too much remarkable low mid body in the mix
Raffael Brina:
- the vocals, the kick drum, the final mix, sounds a little dull
- the kick drum is too much squashed in front in the final mix

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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC055 June 2019 - Submissions until 21-06-2019 11:59pm GMT+2/CEST

#32

Post by White Punk OD »

Beautiful episode, because opinions will be quite contradictory. Good to learn from.

The problem I see is that all those refined and very perfect 3D drum kit images will give the vocals no chance to shine.
We don't have an Abbey Road recording with THE Neumann from the start, and this is the entry condition.
The artist is begging for some repair, as it was comped from very different takes.
No way we can use a magic <famous mixerman name> plugin to gain a world class sound from this geometry.
To me, these spectral AI deverb tools don't tackle the real issues. We can wish more or less reverb here and there, and attempt to make it so.
But this does not touch the power of the performance enough. Things easily begin to sound thin and artificial, and non-organic.
In other words, we can get away with hitech revamping the drums, and with reamping all the guitars, and technically it may be brilliant.
To what use? We can't get away with totally changing the vocals. Here, I have the credo we must capture what the artist has delivered.
And then, support that a little bit, with all the classical techniques that are legit and routine.

Thus, my 2 cents mean to show some nakedness. Reveal what it was, and make it a beautiful gig with a heart and wits.
In history there was quite a number of poor recordings or low-tech mixes that became a #1.
Why is it that some mixes sound as if the band played slower? All the heavy sounds are a drag load. There should be some easy swing feeling in this also, and it should rock at certain moments.
The target should be a normal audience. Not the audiophile feuilleton.
But that's only old me, and I am excited to listen to many more takes and opinions on this.
Good mixing everyone and have blessed hands! :)

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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC055 June 2019 - Submissions until 21-06-2019 11:59pm GMT+2/CEST

#33

Post by SirCool »

hi

thank you for your feedback.
EatMe wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 18:16 CEST
Sir Cool:
- the vocals sound too held back in the mix of bass and kick

Could you explain, I do not understand everything (remember, I'm French).

Best regards,
Steeve

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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC055 June 2019 - Submissions until 21-06-2019 11:59pm GMT+2/CEST

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SirCool wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 20:17 CEST
hi

thank you for your feedback.
EatMe wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 18:16 CEST
Sir Cool:
- the vocals sound too held back in the mix of bass and kick

Could you explain, I do not understand everything (remember, I'm French).

Best regards,
Steeve
Hello Steeve,

You're welcome on the feedback. To explain (use google translate maybe?):

The vocals (female singing) stand at a lower level, are lower to receive perceptionally, in the mix, other tracks are louder, vocals do not stand out in the mix. The bass and kick are much louder and overpowering the level of the vocals in perception.

Don't start speaking French with me please :P la basse et drum de basse est plus trop les chantee en le mix finale.

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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC055 June 2019 - Submissions until 21-06-2019 11:59pm GMT+2/CEST

#35

Post by SirCool »

EatMe wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 20:37 CEST

You're welcome on the feedback. To explain (use google translate maybe?):
Google translate did not give me an understandable translation.
Something like this :
EatMe wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 20:37 CEST
"la basse et drum de basse est plus trop les chantee en le mix finale"
:wink:

I made the choice to move back the choruses because of the breath, the pops, and the correction of the notes which are too perceptible.


Best regards,
Steeve

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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC055 June 2019 - Submissions until 21-06-2019 11:59pm GMT+2/CEST

#36

Post by Mister Fox »

Ladies and Gentlemen - please keep the Rules and Guidelines in mind.

EatMe is not the client (that is fajebru) - and Mix Round 1 hasn't ended yet.
No editing of your submissions. Your submission is final.

:educate:

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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC055 June 2019 - Submissions until 21-06-2019 11:59pm GMT+2/CEST

#37

Post by Satoshi Yoneda »

Hello!

This is my mix.

Wav(44.1khz 24bit) https://drive.google.com/open?id=199ox3 ... 8I0SrIeEOz
MP3 https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XaSo3 ... 64c6HUNz1S
ScreenShot https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QYVUY ... WT3Y-V30O-


MasterBus
Subtle process. Tape Emulation, EQ, Comp.

Drums
More Harmonics and more energy.

Bass
Subtle Drive.

Gtr
Add Harmonics and EQ.

Vox and Chorus
Fixed room bleed by iZotope RX.

Other information
I frequently used Parallel Comp.

Thanks.
Satoshi

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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC055 June 2019 - Submissions until 21-06-2019 11:59pm GMT+2/CEST

#38

Post by White Punk OD »

:tu: I'm a big fan of Japanese production styles! :phones:

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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC055 June 2019 - Submissions until 21-06-2019 11:59pm GMT+2/CEST

#39

Post by SirCool »

Mister Fox wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 06:15 CEST
Ladies and Gentlemen - please keep the Rules and Guidelines in mind.

EatMe is not the client (that is fajebru) - and Mix Round 1 hasn't ended yet.
No editing of your submissions. Your submission is final.

:educate:
I did not think about correcting my mix.
:uhuhuh:

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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC055 June 2019 - Submissions until 21-06-2019 11:59pm GMT+2/CEST

#40

Post by ThaSome »

This is mine

MP3 HQ:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y0xyp5gq8ga82 ... e.mp3?dl=0

WAV HQ:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0dyyuovkunxin ... e.wav?dl=0

I used EQ limiting frequencies, stereoidize and monoidize just some parts of the song, and panning a couple of things.
I tried to reduce any compressor sound-like effect from the original stems with EQ and I reduced harmonics from note F and F#

(Screenshot)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4yo66ona9zl52 ... t.png?dl=0

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