Hey Los_Ady, really thanks for the effort.
Congratulations to the 12 R2' partners. Great Job no doubts.
by the way, , the feedbacks doc seems to be not accessible.
Cheers!
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MIX CHALLENGE - MC078 July 2021 - Winners announced
Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC078 July 2021 - Mix Round 1 in evaluation
Thanks for the feedback and the inputs, @Los_ady !



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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC078 July 2021 - Mix Round 1 in evaluation
Thanks Ady, congrats to the R2 candidates.
To return the favor of feedback,
yeah I did the old school thing plus a little bit of classic Afrobeat sounds including brass.
Because in my view, this is who they really are, and please they should be proud of it, there is so much real power in this, think of all the history in the Black movements, that now have renaissance in Africa herself, listening to speeches by the 60ies Black intellectuals.
According to the lyrics, we have Christians joining Muslims in the spirit of love, and focus on the Sahara people, but also we remember how Eminem wanted to join the Black community and eventually was accepted to the greater part (which I think today would not even be possible, and it was a massive success also in terms of peace, while today perhaps framed as cultural appropriation) so all together this is the gist of old school.
Due to the achievements, it is never outdated, except when hatred wins. (and frames everything that once was good, as bad.)
Good achievements have to be shared much more.
Technically, there are much more modern and clean mixes here, kudos to that.
But I feel, the tech precision is opening up a space, that is not being filled by the content, performances, and arrangement especially with the electronic sounds aka keyboards. So that's what I wanted to show to the forum. (Added nothing but LFO filter multi-effects)
To me, this is a major issue when the purpose perhaps is widening the audience on global scale.
There is so much new, very emotional "low-fi" and vintage sound now again, becoming very successful, eg. in Asia or Great Britain.
It is because of concept, performance, vocal and charisma, all works so tightly together. Then, you can do just anything, tech-wise.
OTOH, the modern hitech productions are highly supported by extremely complex electronic production, like the producing brother of Billie Eilish uses a myriad of samples he collected with his mic on the streets, in the forest, in the factory, on the boat, whatever, and weaves that together in the most skillful and expressionist ways. And it harmonizes with the vocals a 100 percent, or adds the best possible contrast.
In what way and form of expression are all the different listeners all over the world feeling "charisma" in a song?
Because the lyrics and the performers definitely have that. This is "church".
Supportive sound scape and playing has to be directed by that, and nothing else.
( posting #81 )
To return the favor of feedback,
yeah I did the old school thing plus a little bit of classic Afrobeat sounds including brass.
Because in my view, this is who they really are, and please they should be proud of it, there is so much real power in this, think of all the history in the Black movements, that now have renaissance in Africa herself, listening to speeches by the 60ies Black intellectuals.
According to the lyrics, we have Christians joining Muslims in the spirit of love, and focus on the Sahara people, but also we remember how Eminem wanted to join the Black community and eventually was accepted to the greater part (which I think today would not even be possible, and it was a massive success also in terms of peace, while today perhaps framed as cultural appropriation) so all together this is the gist of old school.
Due to the achievements, it is never outdated, except when hatred wins. (and frames everything that once was good, as bad.)
Good achievements have to be shared much more.
Technically, there are much more modern and clean mixes here, kudos to that.
But I feel, the tech precision is opening up a space, that is not being filled by the content, performances, and arrangement especially with the electronic sounds aka keyboards. So that's what I wanted to show to the forum. (Added nothing but LFO filter multi-effects)
To me, this is a major issue when the purpose perhaps is widening the audience on global scale.
There is so much new, very emotional "low-fi" and vintage sound now again, becoming very successful, eg. in Asia or Great Britain.
It is because of concept, performance, vocal and charisma, all works so tightly together. Then, you can do just anything, tech-wise.
OTOH, the modern hitech productions are highly supported by extremely complex electronic production, like the producing brother of Billie Eilish uses a myriad of samples he collected with his mic on the streets, in the forest, in the factory, on the boat, whatever, and weaves that together in the most skillful and expressionist ways. And it harmonizes with the vocals a 100 percent, or adds the best possible contrast.
In what way and form of expression are all the different listeners all over the world feeling "charisma" in a song?
Because the lyrics and the performers definitely have that. This is "church".
Supportive sound scape and playing has to be directed by that, and nothing else.
( posting #81 )
Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC078 July 2021 - Mix Round 1 in evaluation
Hi Los_Ady, thank you so much, your feedback is much appreciated. Just a quick clarification, do I need to delete reversed guitar fx from the final mix or shall I keep it? And when is the deadline for submission? The rest is all clear, I'll get to work.
Thanks again and a good day!
Thanks again and a good day!
Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC078 July 2021 - Mix Round 1 in evaluation
@Los_ady
Not contesting anything here, but just wondering: why is my mix not even in the feedback spreadsheet?
Was it taken in consideration?
Later Edit: Apparently I've cleaned up my dropbox and accidentally deleted it while doing so this last weekend. I had the impression that it has already been downloaded.
Here's the mix here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6hkpuz98nc987 ... r.wav?dl=0
@Mister Fox can check if it's identical to the one he analysed in the initial Statistics Sheet, or, better off, he can probably send you the original file so that there's no suspicion of re-submission.
It would have been nice if I would have been notified about this, I had the impression that the file was already downloaded since it was in the statistics sheet as "within parameters".
Thanks,
Cezar
Not contesting anything here, but just wondering: why is my mix not even in the feedback spreadsheet?
Was it taken in consideration?
Later Edit: Apparently I've cleaned up my dropbox and accidentally deleted it while doing so this last weekend. I had the impression that it has already been downloaded.
Here's the mix here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6hkpuz98nc987 ... r.wav?dl=0
@Mister Fox can check if it's identical to the one he analysed in the initial Statistics Sheet, or, better off, he can probably send you the original file so that there's no suspicion of re-submission.
It would have been nice if I would have been notified about this, I had the impression that the file was already downloaded since it was in the statistics sheet as "within parameters".
Thanks,
Cezar
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MIX CHALLENGE - MC078 July 2021 - Mix Round 2 until 15-AUG-2021 23:59 UTC+2/CEST
Thank you for handling the evaluation, @Los_ady
Ladies and gentlemen, let us kick off Mix Round 2, which will end on Sunday, 15-AUG-2021 23:59 UTC+2/CEST
As of this moment, that is a bit more than 5 days. All Mix Round 2 participants will be sent a reminder via mail shortly.
There is a GLOBAL COUNTDOWN available to check for deadlines.
Just follow this link: Global Countdown (on homepage)
The following 14 participants go into Round 2 (alphabetical order), with "wild-cards" being pointed out (if present this month).
(all Mix Round 2 participants should have been pinged -- updated: 12-AUG-2021)
@AndyM
@CaptainBink (Wild Card option -- because wrong bitrate)
@CeZar
@ciaranchrisoshea
@GUSWIS
@Jerze
@kirurg (check in with the spreadsheet for desired changes, as arrangement was altered)
@LughSenderson
@Mork
@Ozgen Sabuncu
@Promissel (check in with the spreadsheet for desired changes, as arrangement was altered)
@rvalle
@s&f (s&f -- no Wild Card option as mentioned above, but please do not submit MP3!)
@UHLS
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The feedback to the productions can be found here:
viewtopic.php?p=11117#p11117
If you are unsure what to do exactly with your mix, reach out to the song provider and engage in a conversation here on the forum.
And please keep the Rules and Guidelines (post #6) in mind regarding submitting your entry.
Ladies and gentlemen, let us kick off Mix Round 2, which will end on Sunday, 15-AUG-2021 23:59 UTC+2/CEST
As of this moment, that is a bit more than 5 days. All Mix Round 2 participants will be sent a reminder via mail shortly.
There is a GLOBAL COUNTDOWN available to check for deadlines.
Just follow this link: Global Countdown (on homepage)
The following 14 participants go into Round 2 (alphabetical order), with "wild-cards" being pointed out (if present this month).
(all Mix Round 2 participants should have been pinged -- updated: 12-AUG-2021)
@AndyM
@CaptainBink (Wild Card option -- because wrong bitrate)
@CeZar
@ciaranchrisoshea
@GUSWIS
@Jerze
@kirurg (check in with the spreadsheet for desired changes, as arrangement was altered)
@LughSenderson
@Mork
@Ozgen Sabuncu
@Promissel (check in with the spreadsheet for desired changes, as arrangement was altered)
@rvalle
@s&f (s&f -- no Wild Card option as mentioned above, but please do not submit MP3!)
@UHLS
.
The feedback to the productions can be found here:
viewtopic.php?p=11117#p11117
If you are unsure what to do exactly with your mix, reach out to the song provider and engage in a conversation here on the forum.
And please keep the Rules and Guidelines (post #6) in mind regarding submitting your entry.
Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC078 July 2021 - Mix Round 2 until 15-AUG-2021 23:59 UTC+2/CEST
@CeZar @Mork thank you guys for letting me know, please accept my apologies.
Sometimes it happened that I wrote feedback and it wasn't saved due to my internet connection, ouch - if I really forgot you guys, I'll make the evaluation right now, write feedback, and when it's a killer mix you go of course to the next round!
Hear you soon!
Sometimes it happened that I wrote feedback and it wasn't saved due to my internet connection, ouch - if I really forgot you guys, I'll make the evaluation right now, write feedback, and when it's a killer mix you go of course to the next round!
Hear you soon!
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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC078 July 2021 - Mix Round 2 until 15-AUG-2021 23:59 UTC+2/CEST
Hello @Mork, I think your version is very clean and balanced, but consequently also a bit "neutral".
The drum transition before 2:00 sounds muffled, did some effect drop out?
One thing about the sequence of sound scapes among the song parts: Brass is louder and brighter/thicker than chorus vocals.
I think it is important to make the mix "video compatible", more cinema, because of the material (landscapes, water, mountain street, kids...).
Seems we have a somewhat similar perception
, both filtered out the plastic sounding kick beater, but many fellows did not, including the original video mix.
--- on another note
This is Rap / RNB from Eastern Europe.
I became aware after the fact, that my mix was influenced a tiny bit by this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AVhhRdGCJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCRWaxtyNr8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdJpq61u1yQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwz5hrUzEJo
The drum transition before 2:00 sounds muffled, did some effect drop out?
One thing about the sequence of sound scapes among the song parts: Brass is louder and brighter/thicker than chorus vocals.
I think it is important to make the mix "video compatible", more cinema, because of the material (landscapes, water, mountain street, kids...).
Seems we have a somewhat similar perception

--- on another note
This is Rap / RNB from Eastern Europe.
I became aware after the fact, that my mix was influenced a tiny bit by this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AVhhRdGCJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCRWaxtyNr8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdJpq61u1yQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwz5hrUzEJo
Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC078 July 2021 - Mix Round 2 until 15-AUG-2021 23:59 UTC+2/CEST
Thanks Los_ady for kindly providing the mix.
This is a production that I have really enjoyed mixing.
Also for all the effort of listening to all the mixes one by one and giving the comments. They help us grow !!!
Greetings and good luck to all the participants for R2.
This is a production that I have really enjoyed mixing.
Also for all the effort of listening to all the mixes one by one and giving the comments. They help us grow !!!
Greetings and good luck to all the participants for R2.