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Your Drive link should be open access. Otherwise your will be disqualified.
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MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Winners announced
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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST
@LCM! Sorry, I just removed the limitation. It should be accessible now.
Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST
I hope you'll be back. For what it's worth I thought your mix was great and would still have been great if you hadn't inadvertently infringed the rules. I did the same when I first got here.
Best wishes
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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST
Yes, the rule book seems intimidating because it is really detailed, but actually the rules are simple.
We have to provide a mix ready for mastering, the song provider normalises our mixes to compare them at the same level.
So, the rules can be summarised quite easily:
- true peak: -1dB max (and -6dB min to avoid a bit depth drop)
- integrated LUFS: -16dB max
- export with the same bit depth as the provided tracks
- export with the same sample rate as the provided tracks
- respect the filename template
- be careful to the file accessibility (no private access)
- no drums replacement
And that's all...
We have to provide a mix ready for mastering, the song provider normalises our mixes to compare them at the same level.
So, the rules can be summarised quite easily:
- true peak: -1dB max (and -6dB min to avoid a bit depth drop)
- integrated LUFS: -16dB max
- export with the same bit depth as the provided tracks
- export with the same sample rate as the provided tracks
- respect the filename template
- be careful to the file accessibility (no private access)
- no drums replacement
![Wink :wink:](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
And that's all...
Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST
Agreed... now I understand them. Being disqualified focussed my attention, no complaints here. I like the loudness rules, it avoids simple "louder is better" moves that skew a competition like this and encourages the art of making an impact without just resorting to loudness.MartialFromentin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 15:24 CESTYes, the rule book seems intimidating because it is really detailed, but actually the rules are simple.
We have to provide a mix ready for mastering, the song provider normalises our mixes to compare them at the same level.
So, the rules can be summarised quite easily:
- true peak: -1dB max (and -6dB min to avoid a bit depth drop)
- integrated LUFS: -16dB max
- export with the same bit depth as the provided tracks
- export with the same sample rate as the provided tracks
- respect the filename template
- be careful to the file accessibility (no private access)
- no drums replacement![]()
And that's all...
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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST
It is not all...don't forget:MartialFromentin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 15:24 CESTYes, the rule book seems intimidating because it is really detailed, but actually the rules are simple.
We have to provide a mix ready for mastering, the song provider normalises our mixes to compare them at the same level.
So, the rules can be summarised quite easily:
- true peak: -1dB max (and -6dB min to avoid a bit depth drop)
- integrated LUFS: -16dB max
- export with the same bit depth as the provided tracks
- export with the same sample rate as the provided tracks
- respect the filename template
- be careful to the file accessibility (no private access)
- no drums replacement![]()
And that's all...
-no re-uploading your mix, your (first) upload is final
maybe I forgot something....best to check the rulebook anyway!
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MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST
The Mix Pack bundled "TL;DR Rules.txt" covers all that as well.
Either way - friendly reminder:
Including today, 13 days left.
I have 15 mixes on my HDD so far (if I didn't miss one), the multi-tracks have been downloaded 119 times.
Including today, 13 days left.
I have 15 mixes on my HDD so far (if I didn't miss one), the multi-tracks have been downloaded 119 times.
- MartialFromentin
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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST
OK, that's almost all.JeroenZuiderwijk wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 17:19 CESTIt is not all...don't forget:MartialFromentin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 15:24 CESTYes, the rule book seems intimidating because it is really detailed, but actually the rules are simple.
We have to provide a mix ready for mastering, the song provider normalises our mixes to compare them at the same level.
So, the rules can be summarised quite easily:
- true peak: -1dB max (and -6dB min to avoid a bit depth drop)
- integrated LUFS: -16dB max
- export with the same bit depth as the provided tracks
- export with the same sample rate as the provided tracks
- respect the filename template
- be careful to the file accessibility (no private access)
- no drums replacement![]()
And that's all...
-no re-uploading your mix, your (first) upload is final
maybe I forgot something....best to check the rulebook anyway!
![Big Grin :grin:](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
But it was a summary, the checklist before posting the mix, if we don't want to regret not to have the possibility to reupload the file.
![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
Even if a mistake is always possible, I'm always surprised by the amount of files that don't respect these rules.
Saying that, I hope I won't be tagged out in the data sheet or I'll feel ridiculous!
![LOL :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST
I feel I should mention that the integrated LUFS limit shouldn't strictly be written as -16dB, but -16 LUFS only.MartialFromentin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 15:24 CESTSo, the rules can be summarised quite easily:
- true peak: -1dB max (and -6dB min to avoid a bit depth drop)
- integrated LUFS: -16dB max
While it's true that 1 loudness unit is 1dB (IE: turning a master fader down by 1dB should result in a loudness decrease of 1 LUFS), dBs are typically concerned with peak waveform levels where as LUFS are measured over a longer period of time; so -16 LUFS integrated is not necessarily the same as -16dB.
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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST
Actually, loudness fluctuations measured with EBU R128 or ITU-R BS.1770-1+ are noted down in +- <value> LU, not dB (relative) or dBFS (absolute).
The task is still:
do not exceed -16,0 LUFS ILk (loudness, integrated) and -1,00 dBTP max signal strength.
I will update the Rule Book - TL;DR section later tonight. This is long overdue. However, the "full set", the Mix Pack bundled TL;DR Rules.txt and post #001 all cover this multiple times over.
Let us please get back to the main game.
The task is still:
do not exceed -16,0 LUFS ILk (loudness, integrated) and -1,00 dBTP max signal strength.
Let us please get back to the main game.